11/08/07 at 11:51 PM
Pastor Smith, are you aware of the clip posted in response to your
"Re: Women in Ministry"? It is tagged as a direct response to
your teaching and even has your name in the title and he mentions in
the video that it's directed at you and said he would be showing this
website's msg board to prove a point if the viewer watches later
clips. I did a search to pull up the latest teaching so that I
can finish viewing and there it was tagged to your videos. Of
course I clicked on the first clip to see what specifically he was
addressing. I will defer my opinion because I have not watched
the other clips; I got a little agitated because the first one had too
many ridiculous questions for me personally like can women say "hello"
etc, so I decided not to be entertained with this. But I did look
at some of the linked sites to see what he was citing; some
interesting; some not so interesting for me [The more info section of
the clip also includes all sorts of links regarding women being allowed
to preach based on explanations of Scripture]. Anyway, thought
you may want to know. If the LORD wills, I plan to post a
testimony message in response that we know will probably shock the
devil out. But I am still praying on the matter though because I
don't want to be in the flesh and give the enemy any glory in
God Bless you,
Yesterday at 12:20 AM
I have erased my previous message in which I spoke out of
emotion and was not showing the perfection of the law, which is
love. However...I just finished watching a couple of his videos
and what you all have to understand is that these vain babblings and
questions tear down the very faith which he is supposed to be seeking
and striving after. I Tim 1, "Neither give heed to
fables and endless geneologies, which minister questions, rather than
godly edifying which is in faith: so do", explains how this causes
babes in Christ's faith to decay away after letting this type
of rederict implant in your heart. We all should be true
believers in what the Word of God says, or we should
just stop now, disregard the whole thing, and start serving
something else. "Notyour" I had to stop watching when you
started assassinating the character of Paul. Whats
the point of defending one thing in the Bible, when
you turn back around and critisize another part in the same
book?? I mean if you honestly dont know and have these
questions, first ask God to open your heart and mind so you can reveive
the truth, but dont get on a public domain and drag others who may
be seeking truth into your doubtful escapade. While
your seeking your own gain your harming other peoples
faith. All Im saying brother, and im not trying to bash
anybody, but hear from God and gain some understanding before
~Obediance is Better than Sacrafice~
Yesterday at 09:54 AM
it's very cowardly of you to come in this forum and lie on me and
attack me personally, rather than deal with the issues and my questions.
am no one's clown, and I am not a fool. And you are completely
out of order to judge me as being "spiritually void". Who do you
think you are?
Now I asked several questions, with only one being directed to Pastor Smith.
If he wants to weigh in on the others, then he's welcome to. If
not, then it's no problem. As for the questions as to "can
children speak in the church. Can a woman say hello in the
church..", these are real and serious questions I have, because I know
of churches who have rules concerning these issues that they claim come
from the Bible. If The Way of God Church has such rules, then I
would welcome an explanation regarding those as well.
Deal with the issues. The first question being this: What
scriptural authority does Pastor Tony Smith or anyone else have to bar
women from posting biblically related comments on an Internet
I await your answer. Again, this is a free country. Neither you nor Pastor Smith are required to answer me at all.
If you plan on attacking me again, have the courage to contact me
directly or do so to my face. Do not let me come back to this
forum to see you engaging in such conduct regarding me or anyone else
again -- Christian "brother" or "sister".
Yesterday at 10:00 AM
I heard about the link on
11/8/07 and my opinion is the same as it was yesterday, he is just
spiritually retarded........ if anyone has been following my teaching I
already answered what women can do! I gave scripture. if I waste my
time on all the people that think they have condemned what I preached,
I would be in bad shape. why don't he come out and show me up everybody
would love that, and believe me it won't take that long for me to tear
it all down....................
Yesterday at 10:12 AM
I'M the Man
you need to talk to!!!! I would appreciated if you would direct your
comments to me. I don't know who you think you are, but you got the
right one NOW. Why don't you come out and prove out your dumb
house negro doctrine. the people need to see who's telling the truth,
no doubt I must have hit you with my teaching, who is it
mother, wife,sister, aunt or some ignorant woman you just found on the
street. I know that I got you somewhere, when a man or woman is
caught up in Slave doctrine it's not hard to tear it
DOWN!!!!!!!!! I'll be waiting, either you are a man or a house mouse
negro. so please lets get to business, are move off the message board.
Yesterday at 10:23 AM
reading your comment to AdrianC, the advice you gave him about coming
to your face with his comments you, I haven't seen you come to me with
what you have to say, proving you are a hypocrite house Negro. and
where do you think you get off telling someone on this message broad
who to engage. go back to the false so call church that you go to
with the sissy!!!!!!!
Yesterday at 12:44 PM
Thank you Pastor Smith, I agree with you 100% that wasting time
responding to everyone who believes they've condemned what you've
preached would put us in bad shape because more time would be spent on
that than preaching the Word of Truth that we need to live.
Praise God. I just wanted you to be aware of your website being
aired in a clip and your name being part of the clip and your
broadcast message being attached to the clip; I am not sure why someone
would do something like that without having ever come to you first
personally, with the supposed question.
all beloved members of this message board community: we know that
the trick of the enemy is to get those who follow Pastor Smith's
teaching to get carnal in responding so that it may be said, "see, they
ain't of God." If we are trained to see past flesh we can see
that the true attack is against God, not the man of God. And it
is obvious when it is the enemy of God, satan, truly at work, because
he's always saying its the Truth he seeks, however, the method
used is "coming after" the True Sheperd's sheep. I do not
believe Jesus behaves like a hireling for the benefit of His
sheep. That's how I personally decide who's at work, Jesus, or
the enemy. And those who have ever taken the time to diligently
seek the LORD know like you know that it does not require coming
after or involving another person. The seek is between you and
God. So if I really honestly desire Truth like I say I do, but I
spend all of my time addressing what I say are
lies ["myths"], when do I ever spend time truly receiving, feeding
on, the Truth? Surely, it's not a one time deal and I know all
there is to know right now and don't need to feed daily on the
preached Word..? That is what I appreciate so much about Pastor
Smith's teaching, you can learn what is Truth, what the Word says; the
messages are chock full of the Word of God. Rather than a bunch
of foolish and unlearned questions that will mess us up by indeed only
creating strife. What's very unfortunate is some people
truly are so terribly wounded by what they may have experienced at the
hand of "church folks" that they are actually mad with God and just
taking it out on the little gods that they do see for, in their minds,
allowing or not preventing the situation they've experienced; so they
allow their heart to harden and turn dark and they spend their time
persecuting the Church instead of spending that energy seeking out a
place where they can fellowship with the saints of God so they can be
blessed and restored. We really should pray for this brother that
he be healed and restored from whatever he has lost and healed wherever
he is hurt, and that he spends this energy in his own church asking his
own pastor these questions and if he gets the answers he needs via
being taught to rightly divide the Word of Truth, then that's where he
needs to be; but if he doesn't plan on joining the Way of God Church of
the Lord Jesus I believe no explanation is owed to him concerning what
the church decides to stand on. And if joining is a consideration
then the right thing to do is go to the Pastor personally,
not "come after" him via a public video in the name
of free speech. Brother in the video, there's all kinds of things
that are lawful to do, but you seem like a seeker, I believe you know
what God says about lawful things... The only one truly owed an
explanation is the God we have to all give an account to one day, for
every single thing we are doing here and now. That's something to
God bless, and I will not be participating in any more comments on this.
Yesterday at 05:23 PM
you tell him Pastor Smith.........
rebuke whoever this is sharply
this man can't fight the BIBLE...........
some body made a song saying
"I know the BIBLE is right and somebody wrong."
we got to live and stand for the truth, theres no other way...........
also, keep standing for the truth GodsChild
Yesterday at 08:24 PM
I will refrain from calling you "Pastor" because you have now disgraced
yourself to the level of being unworthy of such address.
In my video, I have not taken a position on anything. I have
merely asked questions (which by the way no one has yet to completely
or scripturally answer).
3. I only directed ONE QUESTION to you -- which you have yet to answer. The question is the following: What
scriptural authority do you have for prohibiting women from quoting or
suggesting scriptures on an Internet discussion board? If you do not want to answer the question, then all you have to do is say so and I will move on.
4. The remainder of what you said is not worth responding to, and thus will not be dignified with a response.
(Check the name...I have it for a reason)
Yesterday at 10:05 PM
1 Timothy 2:12 "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. "
you dont understand how this connects with woman posting or qouting
scripture on the message board then let me explain... We have men on
this site. Some are new to the faith (whether they are old or nt the
woman still shouldn't be teaching but im using this to explain) and
when they read a post from a woman who has quoted or suggested
scripture, she would have taught the man something. Hope this helped
you understand this...
Yesterday at 11:12 PM
To NotYourTypicalNegro (again):
I just finished
watching your video and im going to answer some of the questions you
asked. 1. Why cant a woman preach? You asked how is a woman being a
preacher usurping authority over the man. You were talking about 1
Timothy 2:12 "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority
over the man, but to be in silence." But lets look at that scripture
again... It says "...but to be in silence"? So now i have some
questions for you. How can a woman be a preacher and not teach AND be
silent?.. 2. You also mentioned 1 Timothy 3:2, about the
qualifications of a bishop. You mentioned that Paul didnt fit these
descriptions. If you will, turn to the very first verse of that
same epistle. It says, "Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the
commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our
hope;" As you can clearly see, Paul was an apostle, not
a Bishop.... Once again i hope this has helped you.
Today at 12:21 AM
God is good all the time!
Today at 01:56 AM
Amen Bro Chris...
Today at 09:58 AM
1. This is the United States of America, and it is a free country. You have no right to tell ANYONE what they should and should not respond to.
2. No one is talking to you. I directed ONE QUESTION to Tony Smith -- which he has yet to answer. The question is the following: What
scriptural authority do you have for prohibiting women from quoting or
suggesting scriptures on an Internet discussion board?
If he does not want to answer the question, then all he has to do is say so and I will move on.
I do not see what all the stress, fussing, cussing and name-calling is about. The Bible says:
1 Pet 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:"
I await his answer.
Today at 10:16 AM
1. I appreciate you weighing in on the question, however I did not ask you -- I asked Tony Smith.
Nevertheless, you still have not really answered my question. I
asked for an explanation from scripture as to how Tony Smith has the
authority to ban a woman from posting or quoting scripture on an
Internet discussion board. In response you referred to 1 Tim and
then went on to give a personal philosophy having very little to do
with what I asked:
a) Up until now, I
have heard you and others refer to 1 Timothy 2:12 as having to do with
activities that happen at church and at home -- not an Internet
discussion board. So I don't understand why you are quoting that now.Again, your answer has nothing to do with what I asked.
Posting and quoting scripture on a discussion board in and of itself is
not teaching, and such activities have nothing to do with exercising
authority over people.
c) Men being "new to the faith"
should be getting their primary understanding about The Faith from the
Bible -- not an Internet discussion board.
d) This is an
Internet discussion board, where a person's identity or gender is
hidden. So a man has no way of knowing whether or not a person
responding to them is a man or a woman. So I'm still not clear as
to what being a woman has to do with posting information on a
3. In addition to being unscriptural and problematic on many levels, your response is simply absurd. What you are plainly saying to me is that if a woman comes on this discussion board and simply posts John 3:16 ("...for
God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever
believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life..."), then she's wrong and on her way to hell because she imparted knowledge about salvation. This line of thinking is almost laughable, I don't understand how you expect a reasonable person to believe what you are saying.
4. As for your statement that "...Paul was an apostle, not a Bishop...",
you apparently have not done proper study on this subject. The
Greek word for "bishop" in the Bible means "overseer", and the Apostle
Paul clearly functioned as an overseer of the churches. With you
being a self-professed student of scripture, I don't understand how you
don't know that.
Again, I await Tony Smith's answer.